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But we cannot, lest we lose the very respect that tempted us in the first place." - Stephen Jay Gould Bully for Brontosaurus, pp 429-30 (But some, it seems, are willing to take that risk.) Bailey - no protection to men in Kenya Connelly - no protection to black South Africans Auvert - no protection to young South Africans Gust - no protection to gay men Grulich - no protection to insertive Australian gay men (though it has been reported as if there is) Doerner - no protection to insertive gay men in Britain Jozkowski - no protection to US gay men Jameson - no protection to men who have sex with men Millett - no protection to US Black and Latino men who have unprotected insertive sex with men Mc Daid - no protection to Scottish men who have sex with men Wawer - no protection (and maybe increased risk) to women Turner - no protection to women Baeten - no protection to women Chao - greater risk to women Thomas - no protection in a high-risk population Shaffer - no protection by traditional circumcision Mor - no protection to men (weaselly-worded and data-mined to look as if there is) Thornton - no protection to men who have sex with men in London Moiti - circumcised youth at greater risk in Uganda Brewer - circumcised youth at greater risk in Mozambique Darby - no benefit in Australia Rodriguez-Diaz - circumcised men at greater risk in Puerto Rico Tobian - increased risk to women Two Cochrane Reviews Between Correlation and Recommendation A Vaccine? A Solution Looking For A Problem Ethics the Role of the Mucosa "Dry Sex" Delayed washing after sex Alcohol Female Genital Cutting Sexual Selection Wife Inheritance Heterosexual transmission - Europe vs the United States A voice of sanity from UNAIDS A voice of sanity from the Terrence Higgins Trust A UK survey of gay men that found more circumcised men with HIV The hazards of unblinded trials Other studies that show no correlation or a negative correlation between intactness and HIV/AIDS It is not, of course, up to the media to decide what is good or bad science.The media was reporting what it heard from scientists [about cold fusion]."Scientists have power by virtue of the respect commanded by the discipline.

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That's pathetically few to be drawing any statistical conclusions from, and then only of correlation, not causation.

Were any of these men circumcised for religious reasons?

Only seven of the 53 HIV infections occurred among insertive partners; the studys model indicated that five of these infections could have been avoided if the men had been circumcised.

[No figure for how many of the seven HIV infections were among circumcised insertive men.

He went on to note, however, Most HIV infections are contracted in the receptive role, so what were talking about is a risk reduction for a small group of men who didnt have a huge risk in the first place.